Teoricamente sono stati superati i 90 ¤ a barile.......(142,26$ al cambio spot di 1,575 eur/usd).
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Onore a tutti i fratelli caduti nella lotta contro il potere e l'oppressione.
"nel fango affonda lo stivale dei maiali..."
qualche anno fà quando il cambio euro / dollaro era a 1.20, il petrolio ci veniva a costare sui 60 euro al barile. ora che il cambio è aumentato a 1.57, facendo le dovute conversioni, noi un barile lo paghiamo 90 euro.. e perchè i prezzi sono aumentati tenendo conto dell'aumento in dollari rispetto all'aumento in euro??![]()
E' ovviamente un conto della serva però basato su una dichiarazione di un capoccia dell'OPEC.
La dichiarazione del tizio dice chiaramente che alle condizioni attuali 140 USD a barile un'eventuale svalutazione del dollaro del 2% corrisponde ad un aumento del prezzo del petrolio di 8 USD a barile (ergo 148 USD totali).
Fermo restando che dal punto di vista aritmetico non ha alcun senso, mi chiedevo cosa porta ad una dichiarazione del genere.
Perchè se è solo empirismo allora a me verrebbe da dire che tanto a 148 USD a barile ci arriviamo in fretta anche senza svalutazioni.
E' proprio quello stretto legame aritmetico che mi lascia senza parole.
Neutrofilo, normofilo, fatalistofilo: il politically correct della meteo
27/11: fuori a calci i pregiudicati. Liberazione finalmente.
Preparatevi a disfarvi dell'auto ed a comprarvi le biciclette! Non inquinano, sono molto economiche e fanno bene alla salute...![]()
non ho qui il foglio excel, vado a memoria:
l'inizio dell'aumento del petrolio lo si ha alla fine del 2001 partendo da un prezzo di circa 20 euro al barile
il nymex ha raggiunto per la prima volta i 50 euro al barile nel giugno del 2005, a fine di quell'estate è aumentato consistentemente (55/60) in occasione dell'uragano katerina che ha fatto crollare la produzione del golfo del messico e delle zone americane itneressate dall'evento.
è ridisceso fino a circa 43 euro ad inizio 2007, per poi entrare in relly fino a agli attuali 90 euro al barile
whatever it takes
d notarsi che il picco di fine estete 2005 lo s è avuto in occasione di un pesntissimo ammanco di petrolio, dell'ordine di milioni di barili, dovuto agli uragani.
se ricapitasse una stagione degli uragani paragonabile a quella di quell'anno allora potremmo avere quotazioni del petrolio difficili anche da immaginare, oggi.
whatever it takes
tratto dal forum crisis, ecco un intervista di bernabè, allora amministratore eni, fatta quando il petrolio non costava letteralmente nulla
questo per mettere in luce come il problema del picco sia conosciutissimo e ammesso nelle alte sfere, al di la delle dichiarazioni ufficiali
Cheap oil: enjoy it while it lasts
NOT THIS YEAR, nor the next, but maybe as soon as five years hence, oil prices will start to rise, says Franco Bernab, chief executive of the Italian oil company ENISpA. Well before 2010, he believes, the world will be vulnerable to 1970s-style oil shocks.
Speaking to FORBES in London in early May, he says, "There is a great deal of complacency among politicians and economists that the oil problem is over. But despite today's low prices, in the long term we will be back to a high-price scenario in the oil sector."
It sounds unlikely, at a time when crude prices have sagged below $15 a barrel. In real inflation-adjusted terms, that's not much above the price level just before OPECsandbagged the world with $30 oil in the mid-1970s. In short, on balance, the price of oil has gone nowhere in a quarter of a century. However, Bernab -- who is a former economics professor and in the 1970s was a senior economist at the Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation & Development -- puts forward a well- argued case that oil will be a lot dearer in the 21st century than it is in the 20th.
What about technology? Haven't things like horizontal drilling greatly increased the yield from existing fields in recent years? Sure, says Bernab, but there's not a lot more scope to increase recoverable reserves this way.
Today's conventional view is that prices will remain low for the foreseeable future because reserves of oil have been increasing, especially with the discoveries of oil outside the OPEC countries (the North Sea, Alaska's North Slope). On paper, the world's declared reserves, when related to production, are one-fifth higher than pre- 1973.
"Actually, the exact opposite has happened," Bernab says. Most of the increase in world reserves has been within OPEC, and occurred in 1987 and to a lesser extent in 1989. These were years with low oil prices. "OPEC countries boosted their reserve figures as a way [under their calculation method] to increase their shares of OPEC production through the quota system." A negotiating ploy to boost earnings to pay for their rising debt? "It was simply a trick," he says. Either the newfound oil existed only on paper, or it had been there all along but the owners hadn't declared it. In either case, not new oil.
Another region claiming growing reserves is the former Soviet Union.
"These countries, too, overstate their reserves, in this case because they use the concept of geological reserves [everything that might be in the ground] rather than the West's concept of economically producible reserves," he explains.
Bernab's key concern is the reserve-to-production ratio the ratio of proven economically producible reserves to actual output of the non-OPEC oil companies. He looks at the world's 200 largest oil companies that are not owned by an oil-producing country, eliminating from his list such national companies as Saudi Arabia's Aramco and the Iraq National Oil Co. (a group which accounts for over 60% of the world's oil reserves). For his list of 200, Bernab says, new reserves are failing to keep up with growing output. "From 1980 to 1997, their reserve-to- production ratio declined from 18 years to 12 years."
Bernab thinks the figure will continue to decline. "Even to maintain this ratio at today's 2.5% annual increase in world production, this group would need to replace 140% of their reserves over the next five years," he says. This simply isn't in the cards.
"The amount of new discoveries in the world has dropped from a peak of 41 billion bbl. a year in 1962 to 5 billion to 6 billion bbl. a year now," he says. The peak of new discoveries was in the 1960s, with just half a dozen major fields found since then.
"The only really major new basin recently has been Africa's Gulf of Guinea, off Angola, Congo, Gabon and Nigeria. Even the new North Slope field in Alaska contains less oil than was once hoped.
"For the U.S. as a whole, the industry is spending 15% more than five years ago on upstream capital expenditure, but without seeing an increase in reserves," he says.
"The North Sea has accounted for over half of increased production in the last 15 years. But output there will start to decline in the next 2 to 3 years."
Bernab points to what has been happening in the Norwegian sector.
"They have announced that their planned increase in natural gas production to 100 billion cubic meters a year from 2000 to 2010 will now be trimmed to 80 billion cubic meters. The reason is that they can only keep oil production up by injecting gas into their wells," says Bernab.
The new field west of the Shetland Islands is also proving to be much harder to produce from than predicted.
"My forecast is that between 2000 and 2005 the world will be reaching peak production from our known fields, and after that, output will decline." But demand will keep growing, slowly but inexorably.
Does this mean that oil prices will stay down well after the turn of the millennium and then start to go up? Not necessarily. Once the markets recognize that production has peaked while demand continues to grow, prices could move up in advance of any actual shortages.
If Bernab is right, oil and oil shares should be good investments for those who can take a genuinely long-range point of view. But there are other, more dire implications. "It will shift the power in the oil market back to the Gulf region," he points out. More than ever, the Middle East will become a potential powder keg for war.
whatever it takes
Eccoci....l'ho fatto con Excel considerando i prezzi spot del WTI Crude Oil mediati mese per mese (fonte EIA) e il cambio spot EUR/USD sempre mediato mese per mese a partire dal 1999 ad oggi. (Non so se il metodo possa considerarsi economicamente e statisticamente corretto)
Questo è il risultato (ho incluso anche Giugno secondo un calcolo approssimativo):
Mi riprometto di aggiornarlo mensilmente.
So che anche Paolo aveva preparato un grafico simile...sentiamo se ha qualcosa di più accurato da proporci...![]()
[CENTER]--> Marco <--
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ottimo,e questo per la chiarezza:sento dire in giro opinioni confuse,secondo alcuni tolta la svalutazione del dollaro rispetto all'eur il prezzo sarebbe costante,un par de ciufoli,il prezzo aumenta di continuo anche in eur.Credo che attualizzato al costo della vita corrente il prezzo del barile sia oggi superiore a quello post-shok petrolifero degli anni 70!
Onore a tutti i fratelli caduti nella lotta contro il potere e l'oppressione.
"nel fango affonda lo stivale dei maiali..."
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